Posts by Brokeback Watchtower

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Spain: more abuse and harassment testimonies / Crowfunding

by sp74bb in

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more testimonies of abuse and harrassment are arriving at el periódico newspaper in the last days.

tonight this newspaper will be publishing some new experiences on their online web.

tomorrow it will be printed on their printed pages.. many victims cannot afford a legal assistance.

Brokeback Watchtower

Great! Wish you all in Spain the most success against those thug like secret tribunals(kangaroo court) where you are not allowed to record the meeting and they have all the rights and you have none.

I think many brothers and sisters in Spain will have their day in court and squash this abuse and harrasment. This phony foreigner organization has preyed these people long enough they treat them like dirt after years of service nothing no type of severance or monetary help to get on their feet again. This organization got a bad record of mistreatment of people that is bound to get the government after this foreigner run organization that orders this cruel treatment of people while masquerading as a foreigner run charitable organization.

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

Brokeback Watchtower

but proving such accusation when applied to GOD requires the application of a standard, a trial and a judicial decree.

Yeah put God trial and have him pronounced guilty then and only then can one say he guilty of murder, since there never was a trial God did not commit murder by defacto, killing yes,, but since no trial to date murder would not be a crime you can pin on him.

You imaginary friend is pretty untouchable how are you supposed to get him to go to court? Will he just voluntarily
go or do we have to send the police after him?

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Lett is such a comedian..

by Festus in

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cant help it but in this video - "win the inner struggle" - during the first minute he points to his head with his index finger.

and i was just waiting him to shout out loco loudly.... https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201609_1_video.

and those facial expressions..sweet jesus!.

Brokeback Watchtower

He's got balls for getting up there with those floppy lipped jowls and talk about the utter bull shit of his delusions. I think for a grown man to be saying this bull shit before the entire internet to see has got some pretty serious mental health issues, he needs to be put in a mental hospital I becha his mind is gone and shrunk like a raisen in the sun.

So all JDubs out there acording to Lett's illustration you got to win this fight of against the flesh by stop feeding the bad army of your flesh steak dinners or else you be throwing up I white surrender flags all over the place and it;s the lake of fire for you. So do what ever we say study our publication and you will win the fight and stay alive longer. Could this guy get any creepier? He is one stupid brain washed moron with balls the size of water melons to be saying this stupid shit and have it broad cast for all to see.

AM#3 must be having shit fits over this clown's broad cast. I'm sureTony is chomping at the bit and can't wait for his turn to commit social suicide and talk about how tight pants make Jehovah feel disgusted, and spandex for women while at the gym showing of their camel toes.. Big no no for Jehovah and Allah women must be properly covered up.

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What is the purpose of life?

by slimboyfat in

while reading the magazines the other day it occurred to me that jws never really had a very good answer to that question.

because it was aimed at young people and it said something along the lines, "if you believe in god you have a purpose, but if you don't believe in god your life has no purpose or meaning".

i think that is a faulty analysis of the situation.

Brokeback Watchtower

So when Jehovah kills people it is not murder because Jehovah lawgiver and judge and what he says determines if he acted lawfully and so Jehovah then can be justified because God never makes a mistake he's always in the right no matter what.

Consider it mercy killing because they were wicked and deserved it because they worshiped other rival Gods and Jehovah don't like sharing the lime light with neighboring Deities, It's Jehovah alone that deserves your worship.

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Why cant Judicial Committees be taped?

by HereIgo in

i have never understood this.

was it because of legal reasons?

i cant think of any other reason why it wouldn't be allowed, but i know the elders ask you repeatedly that you are not taping.

Brokeback Watchtower

Because it a kangaroo court and they don't want it taped because they are a cult and these things work to their advantage legally and because they engage in criminal behavior in some of these trials acting as thugs over one of their members.and don't want it recorded.

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Anionted mom says Jehovah may ask her to kill all her family!!

by Witness 007 in

yes my holy anionted mom who has cancer is concerned that the loving god jehovah may ask her in heaven to destroy here non believer family including her 5 year old grandchild during armagedon....how messed up are these crazy people!!?

?.

Brokeback Watchtower

It's a fearful thing to be in God's service you never know who Jehovah will want to kill next.

Amazing Grace being in God's holy presents:

When we've been there ten thousand years
Bright shining as the sun
We've no less days to sing God's praise
Then when we first begun.

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More money-grubbing: Give us your money even if you can't afford food

by bohm in

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the message would appear to be that jehovah needs money more than that old lady needs food:.

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Brokeback Watchtower

Vid,

If this isn't indicative of financial problems in the Org, I don't know what is.

Definitely, they announced a halt to their real estate building except a few, bought land contaminated with deadly chemicals, and as genius Rubber mouth Lett said it is a simple case of having negative case flow, and slyly put the blame of lack of contribution after they robbed the congregation of any savings they had and selling Kingdom Halls all over the place.

These wack GBs don't know shit about running a business they claim is God's very own earthly Organization. With CEOs like this calling the shots you gotta know they got big problems and they are enlarging, along with computer technology Moor'se Law. All they are really good at is talking stupid ass bull shit as they live in their delusional world of the F&DS and thinking what makes the big guy upstairs(Jebboba) happy or sad and how to cheer him up so he will give them more cash.

Legal expenses must be mounting I'm sure they are hiring a lot of outside the organization legal help and it must be expensive and their credit rating is down the tubes they can't get money if they needed it with all these lawsuit biting their asses. Someone announced years ago they lost their credit rating and are considered a bad risk which seems only natural looking at the trouble they are in with the law.

Yes there's trouble in river city:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s60hOgqLFGg

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Can you prove that our entire universe and existence is not a computer simulation?

by EndofMysteries in

if you were a computer programmer and you were to create a simulated automated world, that would constantly evolve and self run after initial designs.

first you would have to code the rules, laws, and core elements of this world.

while this is being coded, the program is not run yet, so none of it exists.

Brokeback Watchtower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu6Mh2pX9OI

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Technological singularity

by Brokeback Watchtower in

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/technological_singularity.

the singularity" redirects here.

for other uses, see singularity (disambiguation).the technological singularity (also, simply, the singularity)[1][2] is the hypothesis that the invention of artificial superintelligence will abruptly trigger runaway technological growth, resulting in unfathomable changes to human civilization.

Brokeback Watchtower

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Singularity_Is_Near

The Singularity Is Near: When Humans Transcend Biology is a 2006 non-fiction book about artificial intelligence and the future of humanity by inventor and futurist Ray Kurzweil.
The book builds on the ideas introduced in Kurzweil's previous books, The Age of Intelligent Machines (1990) and The Age of Spiritual Machines (1999). This time, however, Kurzweil embraces the term the Singularity, which was popularized by Vernor Vingein his 1993 essay "The Coming Technological Singularity" more than a decade earlier.[1]
Kurzweil describes his law of accelerating returns which predicts an exponential increase in technologies like computers, genetics,nanotechnology, robotics and artificial intelligence. He says this will lead to a technological singularity in the year 2045, a point where progress is so rapid it outstrips humans' ability to comprehend it.
Kurzweil predicts the technological advances will irreversibly transform people as they augment their minds and bodies with genetic alterations, nanotechnology, and artificial intelligence. Once the Singularity has been reached, Kurzweil says that machine intelligence will be infinitely more powerful than all human intelligence combined. Afterwards he predicts intelligence will radiate outward from the planet until it saturates the universe....
Moore's Law predicts the capacity of integrated circuits grows exponentially, but not indefinitely. Kurzweil feels the increase in the capacity of integrated circuits will probably slow by the year 2020.[10] He feels confident that a new paradigm will debut at that point to carry on the exponential growth predicted by his law of accelerating returns. Kurzweil describes four paradigms of computing that came before integrated circuits: electromechanical, relay, vacuum tube, and transistors.[10] What technology will follow integrated circuits, to serve as the sixth paradigm, is unknown, but Kurzweil believes nanotubes are the most likely alternative among a number of possibilities:
nanotubes and nanotube circuitry, molecular computing, self-assembly in nanotube circuits, biological systems emulating circuit assembly, computing with DNA, spintronics (computing with the spin of electrons), computing with light, and quantum computing.[11]
Since Kurzweil believes computational capacity will continue to grow exponentially long after Moore's Law ends it will eventually rival the raw computing power of the human brain. Kurzweil looks at several different estimates of how much computational capacity is in the brain and settles on 1016 calculations per second and 1013 bits of memory. He writes that $1,000 will buy computer power equal to a single brain "by around 2020"[12] while by 2045, the onset of the Singularity, he says same amount of money will buy one billion times more power than all human brains combined today.[13] Kurzweil admits the exponential trend in increased computing power will hit a limit eventually, but he calculates that limit to be trillions of times beyond what is necessary for the Singularity.[14]
Kurzweil notes that computational capacity alone will not create artificial intelligence. He asserts that the best way to build machine intelligence is to first understand human intelligence. The first step is to image the brain, to peer inside it. Kurzweil claims imaging technologies such as PET and fMRI are increasing exponentially in resolution[15] while he predicts even greater detail will be obtained during the 2020s when it becomes possible to scan the brain from the inside using nanobots.[16] Once the physical structure and connectivity information are known, Kurzweil says researchers will have to produce functional models of sub-cellular components and synapses all the way up to whole brain regions.[17] The human brain is "a complex hierarchy of complex systems, but it does not represent a level of complexity beyond what we are already capable of handling".[18]
Beyond reverse engineering the brain in order to understand and emulate it, Kurzweil introduces the idea of "uploading" a specific brain with every mental process intact, to be instantiated on a "suitably powerful computational substrate". He writes that general modeling requires 1016 calculations per second and 1013 bits of memory, but then explains uploading requires additional detail, perhaps as many as 1019 cps and 1018 bits. Kurzweil says the technology to do this will be available by 2040.[19] Rather than an instantaneous scan and conversion to digital form, Kurzweil feels humans will most likely experience gradual conversion as portions of their brain are augmented with neural implants, increasing their proportion of non-biological intelligence slowly over time.[20]
Kurzweil believes there is "no objective test that can conclusively determine" the presence of consciousness.[21] Therefore he says nonbiological intelligences will claim to have consciousness and "the full range of emotional and spiritual experiences that humans claim to have";[22] he feels such claims will generally be accepted.
Genetics, nanotechnology and robotics (AI)[edit]
Kurzweil says revolutions in genetics, nanotechnology and robotics will usher in the beginning of the Singularity.[23] Kurzweil feels with sufficient genetic technology it should be possible to maintain the body indefinitely, reversing aging while curing cancer, heart disease and other illnesses.[24] Much of this will be possible thanks to nanotechnology, the second revolution, which entails the molecule by molecule construction of tools which themselves can "rebuild the physical world".[25] Finally, the revolution in robotics will really be the development of strong AI, defined as machines which have human-level intelligence or greater.[26] This development will be the most important of the century, "comparable in importance to the development of biology itself".[27]
Kurzweil concedes that every technology carries with it the risk of misuse or abuse, from viruses and nanobots to out-of-control AI machines. He believes the only countermeasure is to invest in defensive technologies, for example by allowing new genetics and medical treatments, monitoring for dangerous pathogens, and creating limited moratoriums on certain technologies. As for artificial intelligence Kurzweil feels the best defense is to increase the "values of liberty, tolerance, and respect for knowledge and diversity" in society, because "the nonbiological intelligence will be embedded in our society and will reflect our values".[28]

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Am I right in thinking that the most zealous JW make the most zealous apostates.

by Chook in

just a thought.

Brokeback Watchtower

I think the correlation you are suggesting is weak and may apply to only a small minority. But I may be wrong because I never really looked into it in any depth merely thought experiments.

One coming out of the JW who was once very zealous maybe from suffering burnout does an internet search and learns TTATT. Depending on how well he recovers from lack of energy and drive,,he may simply because of all that he has invested into the truth wish to just forget the whole thing as and move on with his life.

Or they may feel a deep desire for exposing them as much as possible so they go bankrupt and make that their new #1 priority in life.

It's a toss up like heads or tails to me with perhaps many other catagories beside just 2.